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Thomas L. Hutcheson's avatar

I do not dispute that UI can have efficiency effects, but I see no harm in advocating for it as a pure consumption transfer from the employed to the unemployed any more than is the transfer from the insured whose houses did not burn down to the insured whose houses did.

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Roger Miller's avatar

"Breaking Out of Zero Sum Thinking

The MM paper illustrates how UI benefits generate net value for society, making them a clear positive-sum intervention. Rather than simple redistribution, UI expands economic output by enabling better job matches and greater stability. Given this, expanding UI eligibility would be a socially optimal move."

Perhaps there is some truth to that line, somewhere, but certainly not where I come from. It is a straight up redistribution scheme that foments dependency on others, namely the taxpayer, and poverty. Every cent taken from the 80% of folks who make up this country to support State provided UI is an insult to the working classes and the notion of self reliance and individual sovereignty that built this country.

I might have bought into the premise had the concept of self insurance come up even once. Folks that work for a living are familiar with the concept if they are self insured for long term disability. That works and is totally funded by worker voluntary participation; not like involuntary seizure as in State provided UI or Workers' Compensation.

I believe there is no way a cost:benefit analysis model could have come up with that conclusion sans some serious manipulation of both real economic cost:benefit or social benefit:cost data and most likely, the variables. It does not compute in a real world long term analysis any more than GMI does.

I do not dispute the short term value to the those unemployed because of disability or their employer's economic circumstances, but I will not voluntarily support those terminated for cause, nor should any other American citizen. We, as Americans, are morally bound to care for those among us who cannot realistically care for themselves but also morally bound to demand self reliance and positive contribution to our society by those so capable and reasonably able.

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